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GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-18 8:55:00 | By: globledugmy ]
 
      挑选GMY未来最合适的人才,您来帮我们把把关----看看国内名校的大学生如何看待理性留学?
        英东咨询的前身,GMY CONSULTING GROUP的元老们都有着近10年的留学咨询服务经验。每天接触大量的学生和家长,国人出国留学的目的形形色色;并随着时间的推移,中国日益强盛,出国签证问题已经变得越来越简单,理性留学随之摆在了国内留学消费者的面前。由于在国内留学服务行业率先提出全面提倡和推广理性留学理念,GMY业务迅速增长,并急需大量优秀人才的加盟。我们在一些国内著名的高校举行了一系列的招聘活动,应征者如云。英东咨询的HR针对应聘者进行了系列筛选,对一些条件相对优秀的进行了网上的初步测评。我们的问题很简单:就是让应聘者谈一下对理性留学的看法。随后,陆续有一些应聘者发表了一下自己的观点。我们又进行了新的一轮筛选。

        下面我们就想请我们的留学业内同行,我们的国际国内合作伙伴,我们的现有客户以及潜在客户进行一下网上评论,看看谁对理性留学理解的更深刻,欢迎大家热情参与讨论,按顺序排出前三名,并请写出您排序的理由。排完后请将您的真实姓名及联系方式发到gmyhr@yahoo.com.cn,并说明自己在博客上的大名,届时GMY将挑出最接近录用结果的前三位幸运者,赠送精品礼物。GMY以此方式选拔最合适的人才加盟我们的团队,与各界同仁真诚携手,将更好的理性留学咨询服务带给国人:

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我国在某些方面的教育和科学技术水平与国外确实存在一定的差距,选择出国不失为明智之举。然而,一部分人选择出国是很盲目的,只想到国外镀层金回来,或是纯粹为了赶时髦,这样结果会是怎样呢?

造成这种结果的本质原因是什么呢?出国留学缺乏必要的理性。何为理性,首先出国留学的目的要明确。做什么事情首先就要明确目标,目标是我们前进的方向和动力。确认自己出国留学的真正想法是什么,是想赶潮流还是真正想接受先进的文化知识,提高自己知识和能力。同时,明确了方向,坚定了信念,才能在留学之路上有勇气克服一个又一个困难。其次是选择适合自己的方式和方向。国外可以给我们更大的机会和空间去学习国外的先进技术、先进理念,选择适合自己的是至关重要的。适合自己的才能真正体现自己的价值,才能在这个领域上有所作为。实际操作起来,一方面应该考查你的兴趣和从事专业,另一方面是在此方向上你所具备的知识积累。最后就是自己真正选择了出国这条路,由于国外的文化背景、生活习惯与国内差异较大,就应当具有充分的心理准备去迎接挑战与困难。同时要对自己的留学之路进行初步规划,这样可以作到有的放矢。

总之,选择出国留学是好的想法,作到理性出国才能使好的想法落到实处。

以上是我的浅显之见,恳请老师批评指正,非常感谢!

Actually, there’re some difference in education and scientific level between our country and others. So it’s a good idea that someone makes decision to go abroad. But some decisions are so blindfold to follow the fashions that we can’t expect the outcome.

What’s the basic reason to follow the fashion about going abroad? The essential reason is keeping rational and sensible. What’s rational and sensible decision? On the one hand, the purpose of going abroad is necessary for everyone. Whatever we did, the definite goal will tell us which direction is correct. Make sure what do we wanner get, following the fashion or improve self-knowledge and ability. Only if we had the definite goal, it’s important to persevere in. Then we can conquer difficulty in the way of going abroad. On the other hand, the right way and direction is essential. Foreign country give us so many chances and much space to learn advanced technology and ideas, so the right direction is more important. The right direction can embody self-, and we can get achievement in the area. So, first make sure your interest and your major, then review how much knowledge you have in the area. At last, you really want to choose go abroad, because different culture and habit, we should have enough psychological preparation to face challenge. And establish the primary plan about going abroad, you can have a definite object in view.

Anyway, going abroad is a good idea, rational decision can put it into use.

All of that is my plain idea, please give me some comment and make it correct. Thank you very much!
 

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    近几年“海归”人数不断增多及人才市场价格定位的逐渐理性化,原先笼罩在“海归”头上的“高薪光环”正逐渐散去,许多曾经抱有“镀金”想法的留学人员发现,“海归”的名片并不能让他们成为招聘市场中的抢手。
    那么如何才能做到理性留学是摆在我们面前的急需思考的问题。个人认为,做到理性留学应该做到如下几点思考:
1.有没有条件留学?
2.留学到底为什么?
3.什么时间、以什么样的方式留学才能对自己的人生最有价值?
 

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您好!以下是我对"理性留学"的理解。
 
理性精神,是所有想留学的人必须具备的品质。自费留学生所需要的基本条件包括外语水平、资金数量和海外学习、生活能力。外语是首先要跨越的关隘,一些国家要求申请留学者必须提供雅思、托福成绩,没有一定的外语水平,根本不能顺利在外学习。留学属于社会的高端消费,只有从自身的资金实力出发,制定的留学计划才可行。同时在一个几乎完全陌生的文化环境下学习,面对巨大的文化差异,具有基本的独立生活能力和一定的心理适应水平的人,才适合留学深造。
 

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First of all ,thanks for giving me this chance to exchange some ideas of mine.
 
 For reasonal going abroad for study, you must first have a clear idea of what you want to learn. My favorate business law teacher is a ABC(American born Chinese),he told us most of students choose to pursue further study abroad not because they want to enrich themselves with some more ,but to avoid employment pressure or just don’t  want to land to this society. I think one learn more effectively when needing sth, that is to say, first learn what you don’t know, then learn about what that is.
 
Second , having some overseas background truly will strengthen you future resume. There are truly more excellent lectural knowledge and advanced experiences abroad, all of which will broaden your view in one way, or will also get yourselves lost control.They may have double effects on the formation of one’s personality.
 
To me , reasonal going abroad means many talks with parents, teachers and others knowing you very well and find what you really need and what’s the best way for you.
 

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您好!

    很高兴收到您的回信,下面是我对“理性留学”的一些看法。

     近些年,出国留学已成为继升学、就业之后的第三条出路,留学的人数日益增长,且选择也日益多元和自由。现在一些学校公派出国的计划已经启动,然而自费出国的热潮并没有因此而消退。自费留学在国家、专业和衣食住行方面有较大的自由。然而同时也需要以理性的态度对待,才不会让自己白白浪费了时间与金钱。

    留学的根本目的就是为了将来的职业发展增值,因此事先制订一份合理的留学规划是十分必要的。外语、资金、独立生活的能力和心理素质以及专业的选择都必须在考虑的范围之内。

    没有一定的外语水平很难在国外顺利的学习,这也是现在一些外语培训学校走俏热火的原因之一吧。留学应该属于一种高的消费,应根据自身的经济状况和所选国家的消费水平和学校的奖学金机制综合考虑。另外出国深造毕竟是身处完全不同文化背景的异国,因此良好的独立生活和心理适应能力对于外出留学的人来说也必不可少。最后所修专业应结合自身职业定位、我国的经济发展方向和社会需求进行选择。

    因此留学并非出钱在外国呆两三年那么简单的。是需要理性分析和规划的一件人生中的大事。

 


  
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许经理:
      您好!以下是我对理性留学的思考。一点个人看法,希望经理批评指正!

我对理性留学的思考:
留学市场狂热时代已经过去,越来越多的人在选择留学国家、学校、专业上更具理性了。留学是以自己的事业、前程为抵押的一种高风险投资,每个申请人都应该慎重对待。提倡理性留学,就是要在留学前除了成本和学习规划外,职业规划也必不可少,根据自己的学历、外语水平、个性特征、专业背景、经济能力作出科学合理的选择。我们要在留学前规划好使之成为回报率比较高的投资计划。
 

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    理性留学
随着国际化的发展,在全球范围内配置教育资源、选择适合自己的受教育方式已成为当今社会发展的趋势。古语有云“他山之石,可以攻玉”,但不是说所有的人都应该去留学。申请人必须对自身的条件、意愿、职业规划、国外情形等有了清醒的认识之后再决定是否出国,这就是理性留学。

    Rational Study Abroad
As the world become more and more international, finding education resources all over the world, choosing the most appropriate education form are very popular. There is an old saying that one can learn from other place, but not everyone should study abroad. Before going abroad, the applicants must have known their conditions, their inclinations, their professional plans, situation overseas very clearly. Only doing so they can decide whether go study abroad, and this is so called Rational Study Abroad.
 
 
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With the boosting average level of finance of our citizen and the broadening of the educational horizon, it is natural that more and more students and their parents choose to get further education overseas. I would point out that there are two kinds of students who choose this road, one is to seek the high academic platform or the outstanding experience circumstance, the other is the students in middle school or undergraduate who recognize that they are lack of competitive capacity in the national examination or finding a job so that they try to get a oversea degree which is the point they believed will be much more competitive.
 
No matter what the motivation you take, your goal is the most important. You would better design the time you get the degree, get the knowledge of the job-finding market in the domestic and abroad. Or if you want to develop your academic career, your first assignment is forecasting the future of your area and the reputation of the university’s teachers and labs you fall in love with. Moreover, what major you are interested in and which country has the best circumstance and academic level about this major, both of which are essentially affect your future during and after the education. While you make the decision that you want to study abroad, another focusing question is which country you will choose. This is highly relative with your economic strength and how much do you want to pay for it. The total account is in some extent determined by your discipline. In general, the liberal art seldom have scholarship which including fellowship, TA and RA, so when you apply these majors, you need consider your financial status. Referring to the science and engineering course, most of them offer considerable financial aid if you are excellent. To satisfy their requirement, you need weigh your academic ability, which is measured by the GPA, papers and awards, also, the standard examination of English is another core index to influence whether your application is admitted or not.
 
So in the rational applying, you should understand three steps, the rational determination you will go abroad or not; the rational determination which country or countries and which universities and majors you will choose; the rational preparation before you deliver the materials. Studying aboard is another form of investment, everyone would not expect the result that the account of investing is more than out growth or maybe without any fruit. Following this logic, you are responsible for this account of investment and you must be. It is a procedure to make yourself more competitive, more worth, more erudite and critical.
 
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Now,student abroad is becoming more and more, how we should recognize rational study abroad?
 
1. Bankroll
For this, I believe that someone who wants to study abroad should have enough money. But we also should assure we have enough money at times we need.
 
2. Aim
We should no only acquire visa, but also build up a long-term aim. The pivotal one is the proposer how to choose his specialty and school that fits him.
 
3. Occupation
In this aspect, we suggest that you should be interested in your specialty you choose. Secondly, whether it develop your already engaging work, and it is more important. The last, you must do a costing according to the circs of yourself.
 
4. Specialist
You must hear some advice of specialist. Because there are so many schools and specialties, and research orientations are also different. So, the advice of specialist is more important.
We suggest that the one who want to study abroad should combine the circs of yourself, and have a long-term aim, and also need have some advice of specialist. Choose a right way!
 
如今,出国留学生已经越来越多,我们该如何认识理性留学?
 
1. 资金
对于资金这个问题,我相信那些想要出国留学的人一般都会有充足的资金,但是我们也应该保证在一些需要的时候我们拥有足够的资金。
 
2. 目标
我们不仅仅要取得签证,我们也要确定一个长期的目标。关键的一点是申请人如何选择适合自己的专业和学校。
 
3. 职业
在这个方面,我们建议你应该对你自己选择的专业感兴趣。第二,这个专业时候会发展你已经从事的工作,并且这一点很重要。最后,你必须根据你自己的情况做一个成本计算。
 
4. 专家
你必须听取专家的意见。因为国外有那么多的学校和专业,并且研究的方向也不同。所以,专家的建议尤其重要。
我们建议那些想出国留学的人,应该结合自身的情况,并且做出一个长期的目标,听取专家的意见。选择一条正确的留学之路!


英东咨询:国内理性留学权威机构 www.globledu.com
咨询热线:010-65801161   24小时热线:010-83012272 
 
 
 
Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-15 22:00:41 | By: lexin211(游客) ]
 
r也不错.在出国留学生9成以上是自费生的情况下,理性留学选择专家询问能更好让预备留学者了解出国的目的.
 
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Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-15 19:11:30 | By: 1085(游客) ]
 
j和q不错
 
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Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-15 19:03:48 | By: 125(游客) ]
 
q不错,j也可以
 
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Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-15 19:01:03 | By: luguo(游客) ]
 
我选q
 
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Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-14 15:17:22 | By: Luoya(游客) ]
 
许老师:

以下纯属我个人意见.仅供参考.

首先, 如果想留学, 家庭得具备一定的资金, 最好这笔资金不会影响到家庭的正常生活开支, 不至于让家庭负债供你读书吧, 父母或者自己可以把留学当作一项投资, 权衡利弊, 能收到回报就得看你的期望指.这个回报可指以后光明的前途, 高工资的工作等等.但是现在的人才需求市场,海龟=/高工资, 好工作.

其次, 留学的目的. 纯学习乎? 移民乎? 或者其他不良目的? 这个关系到留学国家的选择, 专业学校的选择等等.选择适合自己的专业,或是喜欢的专业, 或屈从于移民的政策, 或是所谓热门专业跟风.

其三, 在留学期间, 尽量"享受"你的留学生活, 不必因为现实跟理想差距太大,天天抱怨花这么多钱来这个鬼地方,还有些同学天天得过且过,这样都不是正确的态度. 尽量靠自己打工来赚取生活费.这样也能减轻家庭父母的压力. 不打工就不能算是真正经历过留学.

第四, 祝愿天下游子们一路走好.
 
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Re:GMY人才大家选,借您一双慧眼!(二)
[ 2007-5-10 10:01:45 | By: 大黄(游客) ]
 
直说一句:这批似乎没有第一批质量好
 
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